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Date: Tue 29 Sep 87 10:31:05-EDT
From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #75

Usenet Mac Digest     Monday, September 28, 1987     Volume 3 : Issue 75

Today's Topics:
     Converting Bitmap -> Region
     Delete the resource fork
     Re: DIF & SYLK formats
     Re: Delete the resource fork
     Mac SE SIMMs from MacProducts USA
     Cursor Control
     Format of atalk.local for CAP
     Re: code optimizers
     Re: Converting Bitmap -> Region
     Re: Cursor Control
     Cricket Draw vs. Adobe fonts
     DIF & SYLK Formats - summary
     Re: Cursor Control
     Re: Mac SE SIMMs from MacProducts USA
     New Apple RAM upgrade prices?
     Dialog Creator
     enabling the correct entries in the 'Edit' menu
     LSC bug?
     Porting Apollo software to the Mac
     Re: LSC bug?
     Re: Color for the SE? (Is this a dumb question?)
     Re: APPLESHARE server sitting on ETHERNET
     Audio DACs and ADCs for the Mac II
     Re: Printer Driver
     Re: enabling the correct entries in the 'Edit' menu
     Re: Printer Driver
     Who rules the menu bar?

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From: [e-mail] (Tom Carstensen)
Subject: Converting Bitmap -> Region
Date: 21 Sep 87 22:02:52 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics, Beaverton OR

What is a good way to convert a BitMap (ie. icon) to a region?  - or is
there a way? (with out adding to a region pixel by pixel.

:------------------------------------------------------------:
: Tom Carstensen              Usenet: [e-mail] :
: Mentor Graphics             GEnie:                         :
:------------------------------------------------------------:

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From: [e-mail] (Tom Carstensen)
Subject: Delete the resource fork
Date: 21 Sep 87 22:36:08 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics, Beaverton OR

Is there anyway to delete the entire resource fork of a  file without
deleting the entire file, and then rewriting the data fork of the file?

:------------------------------------------------------------:
: Tom Carstensen              Usenet: [e-mail] :
: Mentor Graphics             GEnie:                         :
:------------------------------------------------------------:

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From: [e-mail] (John Miller)
Subject: Re: DIF & SYLK formats
Date: 15 Sep 87 13:00:39 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

A description of the DIF and SYLK formats can be found in File Formats
for  Popular PC Software -- A Programmer's Reference, by Jeff Walden,
Wiley IBM PC Series, John Wiley & Sons, Inc., ISBN 0-471-83671-0.

The same book contains file format descriptions for Lotus 1-2-3,
Symphony, Ability, dBase II and III, MultiMate, MultiPlan, IBM Plans+,
SuperCalc3, VisiCalc, and WordStar.

--
                        John Miller  (ecsvax!phco)
                        Dept. of Pharmacology, Univ. of N.C.-Chapel Hill
                        Chapel Hill, NC 27514       [phone]


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Singer)
Subject: Re: Delete the resource fork
Date: 22 Sep 87 15:04:58 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab Harvard, Cambridge, MA

To delete the resource fork, you can do something like this (in pascal):

    err = OpenRF(fName, vRefNum, path);
    err = SetEOF(path, fsFromStart, 0);
    err = FSClose(path);

But you might want to consider your reasons for deleting resource
forks...

        --Rich

**NOTE: The opinions (if any) stated herein are my own opinions and do
not represent the policies of my employer, THINK Technologies, Inc.


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From: [e-mail] (sullivan jeffrey a.)
Subject: Mac SE SIMMs from MacProducts USA
Date: 19 Sep 87 20:29:13 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys

Does anyone know anything about the $199 1Meg SIMMs being sold by
MacProducts USA (800-MAC-DISK)?  It says "over 4000 upgrades completed",
and "30 money- back guarantee", but I don't know the company who makes
them.  Also, are they user-installed, or do you have to send your Mac
away?

Does the installation of these SIMMs void your warranty?  My SE is new,
so it is still under warranty.  I will be needing a memory upgrade soon,
tho... so anyone know of upgrades that DON'T void the warranty?
(Apple's, I suppose.)

..........................................................................
Jeff Sullivan                University of Pittsburgh
pitt!cisunx!jasst3            Intelligent Systems Studies Program
jasper@PittVMS (BITNET)            Graduate Student
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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From: [e-mail] (Robert George Johnston, Jr.)
Subject: Cursor Control
Date: 20 Sep 87 18:35:36 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


   Does anybody know how to move the cursor from within an application.
(I don't mean with the mouse, but by actually changing the coordinates
with a program). I also need to know if it is possible to constrain the
motion of the cursor to a smaller rectangle than the screen.
   Any ideas?

                    Rob Johnston
                    [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Kerien Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Format of atalk.local for CAP
Date: 21 Sep 87 00:01:20 GMT
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI

I am running CAP on two Kinetics FastPath boxes to connect our Mac
network to the University ethernet.  I would like to use some of the
printing utility software that is part of the CAP package.  I have
compiled the utility called "lwpr" which is used to print files from a
Vax through the FastPath box to a LaserWriter that is on AppleTalk.  In
order for this to work I need to setup a file called "atalk.local".  The
format that I am using does not seem to work (I compiled the utility
"look" and it cannot see anything at all...just responds "? Open
Failed".).  The format I am using is detailed below.

#mynet mynode myzone
50.254 177 FRC

#bridgenet bridgenode bridgeIP
50.44 10 128.2.44.10

The IP address of the mainframe I am on is 128.2.254.177 and the IP
address of the FastPath box is 128.2.44.10.  The zone of my Mac network
is called FRC.  Can anyone tell me if this format is correct?  Does
anyone have an idea what I could be doing wrong?


Any help would be appreciated.

Kerien Fitzpatrick
Field Robotics Center
Robotics Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
[e-mail]
[phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Doug Moen)
Subject: Re: code optimizers
Date: 22 Sep 87 07:53:43 GMT
Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario

>Is there a significant interest market for an external optimizer for
>the Macintosh/Macintosh II?  Recently some CS associates and I have
>discussed the possibility of applying that 'ol computer science
>knowledge toward developing such a product.

Sounds like a good idea.

>Presently we would envision the system to run under MPW - are there
>objections to this? - and operate on assembler output to maximize
>its functionality among several compilers.

The best way to do it is to write an optimizer that works directly on
code resources in compiled Macintosh applications.  That way, you could
take any standard Mac application, and optimize it. The optimizer should
be available as a standard Mac application, it shouldn't restricted to
MPW.  If you plan to sell this thing, then these will be great selling
points.  Your market will not be restricted to developers:  anybody who
wants to supercharge their Mac software would be potential customers.
--
Doug Moen
University of Waterloo Computer Graphics Lab
UUCP:     {ihnp4,watmath}!watcgl!kdmoen
INTERNET: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: Converting Bitmap -> Region
Date: 22 Sep 87 21:17:28 GMT
Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tom
Carstensen) writes:
>What is a good way to convert a BitMap (ie. icon) to a
>region?  - or is there a way? (with out adding to a region
>pixel by pixel.

You might consider why you want to do this. If you merely want to do
some clipping, then you should read the tech note on drawing with ICN#s.
If you want do to a drag gray region kind of thing, then consider this:

Allocate a 34x34 offscreen bitmap. Clear it. CopyBits your icon into it:
1.) using "or" drawing at 0,0 of the offscreen bitmap
2.) using "or" drawing at 0,2 of the offecreen bitmap
3.) using "or" drawing at 2,0 of the offscreen bitmap
4.) using "or" drawing at 2,2 of the offscreen bitmap
5.) using "bic" drawing at 1,1 of the offscreen bitmap

What this does, is create an "outline" of your original icon. You can
drag this offscreen bitmap around on your screen by drawing it to the
screen using CopyBits in XOR mode, and to move it, erase it by drawing
over it in XOR, and draw it in the new position with XOR.

Note: These XOR drawing techniques only work if all changing objects do
their drawing using XOR. In general, in a multi-tasking environment they
will not work, but the special case: you are drawing only in your own
window, and no one else is drawing in your window, is common enough for
this still to be a useful technique.  (Also, if you use this technique
only to track the mouse during a mousedown, you won't be calling
WaitNextEvent(), so other tasks won't run during the drag anyway.)

--- David Phillip Oster            -The goal of computer science is to build
Arpa: [e-mail] -something that will last,'til we finish it
Uucp: {uwvax,decvax,ihnp4}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu

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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: Cursor Control
Date: 22 Sep 87 21:27:49 GMT
Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley

Apple _strongly_ recommends that you not do this. Apple has promised to
deimplement the current mechanism for doing this.  The current mechanism
is documented in Inside Macintosh Vol. 1, at the end of the Event
Manager section. This is the section on "journaling", and it is this
mechanism that I used so that my digitizing tablet drivers can move the
mouse cursor.  If it is going to work with arbitrary programs, you must
do a _lot_ of work to patch the ROMs to get around bugs in people's
application programs. Among the programs that had bugs with this method
were early versions of the ImageWriter Printer driver.

>I also need to know if it is possible to constrain the motion of
>the cursor to a smaller rectangle than the screen.

You can get the seeming of moving the cursor under program control by
calling HideCursor(), and doing your own graphics to do your own mouse
tracking. In general you should do this only under very tightly
constrained circumstances, since it makes living under a multi-tasking
environment painful.

--- David Phillip Oster            --This space for rent.
Arpa: [e-mail] --Your message could go here!
Uucp: {uwvax,decvax,ihnp4}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Blackwell)
Subject: Cricket Draw vs. Adobe fonts
Date: 22 Sep 87 21:19:16 GMT
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI

We have discovered (the hard way) a very serious bug in Cricket Draw
which greatly hampers its usefulness to us. Hopefully, this article will
save others time and grief... The basic problem is that Cricket Draw
does not work with non-resident printer fonts from Adobe. Here's the
whole story, as best I can figure out: We have several
LaserWriter-Plus's, and a Linotype L300. The L300 only has the basic set
of LaserWriter fonts: Times, Helvetica, Courier and Symbol. Additional
fonts (like Palatino) can be purchased from Adobe and either loaded into
the L300's memory, or stored on it's internal hard disk. We have
invested several thousand dollars into fonts from Adobe - we have many
beyond the LW+ set, like Goudy, Garamond and Baskerville.

The problem stems from Adobe's font protection schemes. Adobe protects
its fonts on three levels: first is the Mac disks that the fonts come on
are copy protected. Next, fonts are initialized to a specific printer,
which keys them to the printer serial number, so once initialized, the
font can only be used on that printer. Finally, there is special code
built into PostScript which is intended to prevent you from extracting
the spline descriptions of "protected" fonts (conceivably, if this
weren't there, you could get by the other forms of copy protection by
loading the fonts, and then sucking them back out).

It is this last form of copy protection that screws up Cricket Draw.
Apparently, it tries to perform some operation on the fonts (like
pathforall) which could conceivably be used to extract the font
description. On fonts purchased from Adobe, this causes an "invalid
access" PostScript error, and the file cannot be printed. This is
particularly annoying with pictures using fonts like Palatino - they can
be printed fine on the LW+ (because the font is built in), but cannot be
printed on the L300. Presumably, using downloaded fonts on the
LaserWriter will cause the same problem.

I talked to Cricket technical support, and they claim there is no way
for them to fix this, and the problem is Adobe's. The only solution they
could offer is to buy fonts from somebody other than Adobe (they're the
only one using this hairy protection scheme, apparently). It's a little
late for that, and besides, Adobe has the fonts we need. Looks like
Illustrator wins... Too bad, as Cricket Draw is a nice easy program to
whip up simple drawings with.

        Mike Blackwell
        The Robotics Institute, Carnegie-Mellon University
        ARPA: [e-mail]
        Phone: [phone]


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From: [e-mail] (Jan Harrington)
Subject: DIF & SYLK Formats - summary
Date: 22 Sep 87 11:35:40 GMT
Organization: Scholastech, Inc., Waltham, Mass.

This message is both a thank you and a summary of the responses I
received in regard to my request for sources describing the DIF and SYLK
file formats. A number of people gave me responses, so I though it might
be useful to others to know what was suggested.

The basic sources are actually software manuals.

DIF - the VisiCalc manual (which I did happen to have laying around)
SYLK - the Microsoft Multiplan manual (which also was sitting on a shelf in
            this office of mine)

A good article summarizing DIF - the November, 1981 issue of Byte
A good article summarizing SYLK - the May, 1984 issue of Systems & Software

There are also some books describing MS-DOS file formats, though I
didn't personally look at any of them.  (The manuals and articles were
easier to get ahold of, and time was of the essence!)

Thanks so much to all of you who responded.

Jan Harrington, sysop
Scholastech Telecommunications
ihnp4!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop

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From: [e-mail] (HP AI User)
Subject: Re: Cursor Control
Date: 22 Sep 87 23:44:51 GMT
Organization: Univ of Utah CS Dept

I spent a while figuring this out last year, and the answer is yes, but
only if you want to sacrifice compatibility.  There is a set of
undocumented low memory globals on the Mac 128K, 512K, and Plus that
store cursor info, but I have no idea if they're available on the SE or
the II, and there's no guarantee that they'll be there on future
machines.

CrsrPin at $834 is a rectangle the cursor is pinned to, initially the
size of the screen (I don't know about multiple-screen systems).  If you
make it larger than the screen the Mac crashes.  When changing cursor
info, set the byte-size boolean CrsrNew at $8CE and wait a tick for the
cursor to be updated.  CrsrCouple, a byte-size boolean at $8CF, is true
if the cursor is coupled to the mouse.  Unset it if you don't want the
user using the mouse.  I couldn't figure out how to move the cursor
other than temporarily setting CrsrPin to a tiny rectangle at the point
I wanted the cursor.

Carefully consider why you want to move the cursor.  I used a system
called Geos on my friend's Commodore 64 that always helpfully moved the
cursor to the point where it thought I wanted it.  It drove me crazy. In
addition, restricting the cursor's movement has shades of (gasp) MODES,
and works against MultiFinder.  I think Apple has good reason not to
document the cursor routines.

-----
Lee Choquette                [e-mail]
University of Utah Computer Center    [e-mail]
MEB 3440                utah-gr!utah-ug!u-lchoqu
Salt Lake City, UT  84112        [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (David W. Berry)
Subject: Re: Mac SE SIMMs from MacProducts USA
Date: 22 Sep 87 23:21:23 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (sullivan jeffrey a.)
writes:
>Does anyone know anything about the $199 1Meg SIMMs being sold by MacProducts
>USA (800-MAC-DISK)?
***********************************************************************
*******  This is from a random interested user and has nothing ********
*******  to do with my association with apple                  ********
***********************************************************************
    I just called and asked about 1 Meg SIMMs and the scoop is that they
are selling 120 NS 1 Meg SIMMS (good for Plus, SE or II) for $249 a
piece. In other words, you need to pop $498 to add 2 Meg or a grand to
upgrade to 4 Meg.  The upgrade is user installed and will probably void
your warranty if it hasn't already expired.  About the only way to avoid
voiding the warranty is to have an apple certified dealer install it.
If you can talk one into installing these cheaper simms it shouldn't
void the warranty.
    As to the quoted $199 price "That was an earlier price and we were
unable to get the chips at that price."  You decide whether or not it's
misadvertisement.  It doesn't appear that they ever had any...
    Still looks like a bargain to me if you don't mind dealing with folks
who will quote a price they can't meet.
--
    David W. Berry
    [e-mail]                   dwb@Delphi
    [e-mail]                   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (sullivan jeffrey a.)
Subject: New Apple RAM upgrade prices?
Date: 22 Sep 87 17:00:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys

I see from my friendly local dealers that Apple has dropped(?) their 2M
upgrade price to $599.00.  Will this cause Dove to drop theirs from the
$650 I've seen in DISCOUNT houses, or is there some difference between
dove's upgrade (MacPlus 2S, I think) and Apple's?

..........................................................................
Jeff Sullivan                University of Pittsburgh
[e-mail]            Intelligent Systems Studies Program
jasper@PittVMS (BITNET)            Graduate Student
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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From: [e-mail] (Tom Kimpton)
Subject: Dialog Creator
Date: 21 Sep 87 05:35:22 GMT
Organization: Icon International Inc., Orem, Utah

I got a program about a month ago that I haven't seen mention of,
perhaps because it's old hat, but it might be of interest of others out
there.  It is called "Dialog Creator".  It's from a fellow at Apple
Canada, Michael Bayer.  The easiest way to explain it is that it is kind
of like a paint program for dialogs, with a palette of window types and
itemlist types.  It doesn't really work that way but you get the
picture. As you compose your dialog, it creates an RMaker file that you
may later save, and compile, for inclusion in your program.  The version
I have is copyright 1985 by.  Does anyone have or know the whereabouts
of the latest version of this?  This version still has several bugs and
is limited to 25 items per dialog.  It also makes reference to a
possible descendent, "Resource Creator".  Has this taken it's place?
Does it exist?

Anyway it's a great program to create dialogs with.
--
Tom Kimpton            seismo!utah-cs!utah-gr!uplherc!nrc-ut!iconsys!tom
ICON International, Inc.    {ihnp4,psivax}!nrcvax!nrc-ut!iconsys!tom
Orem, Utah 84058        [e-mail]
[phone]            iconsys![e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Joe VanAndel)
Subject: enabling the correct entries in the 'Edit' menu
Date: 22 Sep 87 19:08:17 GMT
Organization: Cadnetix Corp., Boulder, CO

I have a question about enabling/disabling the standard
'cut/copy/paste/clear' menu items under the 'Edit' menu.  If I have an
application that has multiple windows, where one window supports
'cut/paste' and another doesn't, and I need to support desk-accessories
that need the 'Edit' menu, what do I do?  I don't want menu entries that
are non-functional to be enabled. I have discovered how to determine
that a desk-accessory window had been activated or de-activated, and
enabled/disabled the menu items appropriately, but then I discovered
that I had missed the case of the desk-accesssory being closed, while
its window was active.

I've probably gone down a blind alley, but could someone tell me the
right way?

Thanks in advance!
--
    Joe VanAndel          UUCP:        hao!ico!cadnetix!jva
    Cadnetix Corp.                  [e-mail]
    5757 Central Ave.
    Boulder, CO 80301    Voice:        303-444-8075


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From: [e-mail] (Ted Johnson)
Subject: LSC bug?
Date: 21 Sep 87 21:44:41 GMT

I'm having a very wierd problem with Lightspeed C's time() and ctime()
functions.  They both print out the correct time, except that they're
both exactly 5 hours fast!!

    #include  <unix.h>
    #include  <stdio.h> /*I also included just about
                     every manager there is.*/
    main()
    {
    unsigned long a;
    unsigned long clock;

        time(&a);
        printf("%s", ctime(&a));
        printf("%s", ctime(NULL));
    }

    This program printed out "Mon Sept 21 05:55:01  1987"
                 "Mon Sept 21 05:59:01  1987",
    but my JClock said "0:59:01", so I know that the problem
    isn't that my system clock is set wrong.

    This wierd behavior occurs with v2.01 and v2.11 of LSC,
    on a Mac SE HD20 running 4.1/5.5.

    Any clues are greatly appreciated!

    -Ted

    UUCP:  hplabs!hpcea!hpcid!tedj

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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Housen)
Subject: Porting Apollo software to the Mac
Date: 21 Sep 87 13:42:07 GMT
Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA


I may need to port some software, which was written for Apollo
computers, to the Mac II.  I am very familiar with the Mac but know
little of the graphics environment of Apollos. I know that the software
in question uses a graphics library called PHIGS. Has anyone out there
had any experience in this kind of conversion?  I am curious as to the
severity of the differences.

        Thanks a heap....

        Kevin Housen


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Singer)
Subject: Re: LSC bug?
Date: 23 Sep 87 13:27:14 GMT
Organization: THINK Technologies, Inc, Bedford MA

    I reproduced this behavior, and asked some questions, and looked at the
library sources, and it seems that the time() and ctime() functions
return Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), *not* local time. The fault lies with
the documentation for not reporting this little fact, and will be
corrected.

If you need local time (or the machine's clock time) you can do
something with the OS Utilites and the International Utilities Package:

#include <MacTypes.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <OSUtil.h>
#include <IntUtilPkg.h> /* this may not be the right name? */

main()
{
    Str255 theDate, theTime;
    long secs;

    GetDateTime(&secs);
    IUDateString(secs, longDate, &theDate);
    IUTimeString(secs, TRUE, &theTime);

    printf("%s\n", &theDate);
    printf("%s\n", &theTime);
}

I haven't actually tested this, and it's not an exact replacement of the
unix time function, but it (or something like it) should work.


        --Rich

**Note: The opinions herein are my own opinions and are not necessarily
representative of the opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc.)

Richard M. Siegel Customer Support Representative THINK Technologies,
Inc.


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From: [e-mail] (D. Ranson CNET)
Subject: Re: Color for the SE? (Is this a dumb question?)
Date: 22 Sep 87 06:04:12 GMT

One thing that has been overlooked in this discussion is that the trap
table on the SE is too small to hold ColorQD traps. This rules out CQD
on the SE.
    Daniel Ranson
    ...!seismo!mcvax!inria!{crcge1 or cnetlu}!ranson


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From: [e-mail] (Dan Graifer)
Subject: Re: APPLESHARE server sitting on ETHERNET
Date: 23 Sep 87 18:56:22 GMT
Organization: UCSD Office of Academic Computing


Since my last posting on this subject, I have obtained more info.

First, just out of interest:  3Com now supports appletalk on their PC
network servers in some fashion. Novell says they will have something
similer via appletalk by January

I talked again, this time to tech folks at TOPS.  Very helpful.  You can
network Macs and Unix machines over ethernet using TOPS and the Kinetics
Ethernet controllers (both SCSI and the SE board).  You might call the
technique "EtherTalk" as they are actually packaging up Appletalk
messages for transmission in Ethernet Packits.  This is what the TOPS
software expects to see on a unix server (by the way, a unix machine
cannot be a client at  this time on a TOPS network).  It is also what
the Kinetics fastpath expects to see translation to/from AppleTalk.  It
is my understanding that the speed of Appletalk is limited by the
Appletalk driver chips, which TOPS/Ethertalk will bypass.

Hope this helps.

                              Dan Graifer
                              [e-mail]
Disclaimer: Nobody ever listens to me anyways; Why should they start now?

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From: [e-mail] (Susan Fichera)
Subject: Audio DACs and ADCs for the Mac II
Date: 23 Sep 87 21:21:52 GMT
Organization: U.C. San Diego

    Does anyone know of any ADCs and/or DACs which will operate with the
Macintosh II and have at least 16-bit resolution, 44KHz speed, 2
channels and ability to transfer samples directly to disc?

Thanks in advance,

Tom Erbe    (ucbvax!sdcarl!tre)


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From: [e-mail] (Lee Atchison)
Subject: Re: Printer Driver
Date: 23 Sep 87 14:37:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

There is a product called LASERSTART which will allow you to use an HP
Laserjet on a Macintosh.  According to the info I have, it is suppose to
make "the LaserJet completely compatible with the Macintosh computer."
The information goes on to say that it works with all software using the
Mac printing standards like MacWrite, MacPaint, MS Word, etc.  I haven't
tried the product, but only have an information sheet.  The product is
available from:

        Softstyle, Inc.
        7192 Kalanianaole Hwy., Suite 205
        Honolulu, HI 96825
        [phone]

I heard about the article from an information sheet put out by HP about
connecting the Laserjet, ThinkJet, and just about the whole line of HP
plotters to a Macintosh.  I got the sheet by sending in a reader
response card to an article HP had in MacWorld (I don't know what
issue).

I hope this helps!  If you decide to get it, please followup to the net
as far as its usefulness.  I might be interested in getting a Laserjet
in the future (sure is a whole lot cheaper than the LaserWriter).

                -lee
--------
Lee Atchison
Hewlett Packard
Information Networks Division
Cupertino, CA 95014
[e-mail]
[phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: enabling the correct entries in the 'Edit' menu
Date: 23 Sep 87 23:37:28 GMT
Organization: Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer

In MacApp we check for an active desk accessory after each event.  You
do this by looking at the window kind field of the FrontWindow.  DA
Windows have a negative window kind (it is the DA refnum).  If
FrontWindow returns NIL, then there are no windows open.

--
Larry Rosenstein

Object Specialist
Apple Computer

AppleLink: Rosenstein1
UUCP:  {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr
CSNET: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (David Williams)
Subject: Re: Printer Driver
Date: 23 Sep 87 20:34:25 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

Be careful!

As the Laserjet as configured does not support postscript! So what you
see on the screen is not necessarily what you get on the printout...Mind
you I have not used Softstyles product personally, I have just read
various  comments on various BBSs. If your Laserjet does not have enough
memory I  would assume that you would get chopping of the images at 300
dpi.

Now, this package might be more than enough if you are printing just
straight text. I also think they have a new version of the product.

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Hp Cupertino
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Carstensen)
Subject: Who rules the menu bar?
Date: 23 Sep 87 21:00:32 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics, Beaverton OR

I have a question concerning the use of the menu bar.   Since the
current application gets to use the menu  bar for its menus, doen't this
entitle the application to user the WHOLE menubar?

The problem.  Programs like Switcher and Multifinder user the right hand
side of the menu bar to put a small 'picture'.  (ie double arrow, or the
current application)

If an applications menus were to reach that far right, who has the right
to use that space.  It seems to me that the menu bar belongs to the
application, and not the running environment.

In a program I'm writing I put my own SICN's in the right side of the
menu bar, which would compete with Switch or Mulitfinder.

Who has the right of way?

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